1 00:00:00,030 --> 00:00:14,780 action www.supershootergames.com 2 00:00:14,790 --> 00:00:57,910 you 3 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:00,919 hi I'm Emma when we've just come up to 4 00:01:05,359 --> 00:01:03,210 town Hill tonight to meet mark ray Werth 5 00:01:07,279 --> 00:01:05,369 who was a witness to one of the 6 00:01:10,039 --> 00:01:07,289 triangles on the night of the triangles 7 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:10,049 19th of January in 1983 he was 8 years 8 00:01:15,169 --> 00:01:11,610 old at the time and he was with his 9 00:01:17,359 --> 00:01:15,179 mother and his sister I believe yeah and 10 00:01:18,649 --> 00:01:17,369 she was in the early evening because it 11 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:18,659 was a school night so he would wouldn't 12 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:20,880 be not that late so he's not sure the 13 00:01:25,789 --> 00:01:23,310 exact time but we hope to find out 14 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:25,799 shortly when he has a word with his 15 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:28,440 mother later on so mark what what can 16 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:30,690 you tell us about that night oh he's 17 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:35,520 going walking my friend on it was 18 00:01:41,949 --> 00:01:38,190 roughly around 7:00 I did confirm up 19 00:01:44,990 --> 00:01:41,959 with my mother I just want to get there 20 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:45,000 my mother said look at that that's weird 21 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:48,030 and we looked up to the sky like there 22 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:51,119 was two huge triangles biggest things 23 00:01:54,919 --> 00:01:53,280 I've ever seen one in front of the other 24 00:01:57,259 --> 00:01:54,929 the left one was in front of the right 25 00:01:59,809 --> 00:01:57,269 one just traveling up to see very slowly 26 00:02:02,419 --> 00:01:59,819 no no used to them at all I remember the 27 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:02,429 big white rings underneath um and the 28 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:03,840 lights going off all over that you see 29 00:02:10,820 --> 00:02:08,929 the two triangles - I would say roughly 30 00:02:20,899 --> 00:02:10,830 and this would be guessing now but 31 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:20,909 roughly around 500 I just remember the 32 00:02:26,180 --> 00:02:24,360 size of them I say if they were if they 33 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:26,190 were down here I would say they were 34 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:31,500 bigger than two for pictures for about 35 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:35,640 20 minutes we were yeah roughly they 36 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:38,310 hardly moved by the time we left they'd 37 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:41,610 hardly moved no spawn at all nothing at 38 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:44,010 all and it's my mother that said let's 39 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:45,360 go in the end because we had to take my 40 00:02:55,630 --> 00:02:54,100 the streetlights were coming on my 41 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:55,640 mother confirmed to me that it was just 42 00:02:59,649 --> 00:02:58,400 getting dark so I thought was that but 43 00:03:04,180 --> 00:02:59,659 she confirmed was just getting dark it 44 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:04,190 was yeah there was a white ring 45 00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:06,110 underneath and there was I remember 46 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:08,060 yellow lights white lights going off all 47 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:10,970 over it so it's like as if they wanted 48 00:03:26,259 --> 00:03:21,230 to be seen it was deep the thickness 49 00:03:29,050 --> 00:03:26,269 yeah I wouldn't know the exact thickness 50 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:29,060 but it was quite deep but looking at it 51 00:03:34,479 --> 00:03:33,440 they looked they looked shallow but they 52 00:03:36,130 --> 00:03:34,489 weren't because they would they were 53 00:03:38,110 --> 00:03:36,140 just too big so these can see they have 54 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:38,120 their head in South yeah yeah 55 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:40,159 if that's so Lawrence with a good turn 56 00:03:45,970 --> 00:03:44,450 get a shot of the you could get mark 57 00:03:50,580 --> 00:03:45,980 pointing up to exactly where they were 58 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:50,590 in this day okay 59 00:04:01,339 --> 00:03:55,330 yep that that's so we look in South East 60 00:04:05,339 --> 00:04:01,349 there so they'd be heading left to right 61 00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:05,349 big ones trail to the beach yeah so just 62 00:04:11,009 --> 00:04:07,720 to get your bearings we write my grade 63 00:04:14,250 --> 00:04:11,019 glutes square just down there and behind 64 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:14,260 this we've got time for roads past the 65 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:27,130 people can get their bearings so like 66 00:04:32,910 --> 00:04:29,390 you said he was he was just he was just 67 00:04:35,050 --> 00:04:32,920 getting dark so lighting for January 68 00:04:39,190 --> 00:04:35,060 just getting darker beep something like 69 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:39,200 5 o'clock that was yeah I'm lost with 70 00:04:44,020 --> 00:04:40,940 that 1 o'clock my mother comes to 71 00:04:46,780 --> 00:04:44,030 midwinter yeah what you remember was it 72 00:04:49,420 --> 00:04:46,790 dark or was it I I remember it being 73 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:49,430 dark damn but my mother said was just 74 00:05:02,770 --> 00:04:53,780 getting dark so because of the lights 75 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:02,780 shining on it so yeah we just fascinated 76 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:04,610 with it so we just you know we were 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:07,910 staring for ages and by the time we 78 00:05:11,650 --> 00:05:10,010 walked we walked my friend home I was 79 00:05:16,660 --> 00:05:11,660 over on Gordon Avenue but time we come 80 00:05:19,650 --> 00:05:16,670 back be gone so I mean II read no I was 81 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:19,660 more exciting than anything it was like 82 00:05:26,470 --> 00:05:24,530 fascinating nothing at all I want to 83 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:26,480 know more even as young as I was I 84 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:29,050 wanted to know more 85 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:33,170 yeah since the kids really after that it 86 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:34,970 was a big interest of mine so when I was 87 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:37,880 in school I started subscribing to the 88 00:05:46,180 --> 00:05:41,450 magazines and everything that sparked my 89 00:05:50,140 --> 00:05:46,190 interest he's no noise at all totally 90 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:50,150 silent I say the ring that the white 91 00:05:59,410 --> 00:05:51,890 rings underneath which is bright and the 92 00:06:02,110 --> 00:05:59,420 lights just going off yeah the actual 93 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:02,120 rings were white the orange rings 94 00:06:06,370 --> 00:06:04,160 underneath yeah it's all around you know 95 00:06:08,380 --> 00:06:06,380 if there was a white ring which is all 96 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:08,390 white right the whole ring and then the 97 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:09,980 lights were going off all over the 98 00:06:13,650 --> 00:06:12,650 triangle so the front the sides there 99 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:13,660 were lights going off those legs 100 00:06:18,430 --> 00:06:15,830 intimately going off all over all over 101 00:06:19,530 --> 00:06:18,440 them yeah on both of and faster they 102 00:06:21,939 --> 00:06:19,540 move into that 103 00:06:24,159 --> 00:06:21,949 not like they wasn't moving that's the 104 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:24,169 thing was just staring at me was they 105 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:27,320 wasn't going anywhere no they must have 106 00:06:30,689 --> 00:06:28,910 jest by the time we got to win a damn 107 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:30,699 him and come back they must have just 108 00:06:34,779 --> 00:06:33,289 shut off because if they were still 109 00:06:36,310 --> 00:06:34,789 doing the same speed they were doing 110 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:36,320 they would have still been here when we 111 00:06:39,969 --> 00:06:38,120 got back so the vivid memory like you is 112 00:06:42,610 --> 00:06:39,979 holding you so remember study I can 113 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:42,620 picture him in my head to this day what 114 00:06:46,689 --> 00:06:43,910 they look that what they look like 115 00:06:49,719 --> 00:06:46,699 because I say was fascinated and I 116 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:49,729 stared at him for ages what did your 117 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:51,410 mother and sister say the time remember 118 00:06:54,010 --> 00:06:53,210 was just the can remember she was 119 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:54,020 younger the mess again 120 00:06:58,930 --> 00:06:56,090 my mother is clear with my mother as 121 00:07:01,540 --> 00:06:58,940 well it's clear clear images and we 122 00:07:02,590 --> 00:07:01,550 often bring it up when we having family 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:02,600 meals and stuff 124 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:05,650 my mother will talk quiet she got a 125 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:08,240 middle room full of you have four boxes 126 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:09,919 which sparked their interest as well 127 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:12,800 that was a pinnacle for us that was 128 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:13,490 mm-hmm 129 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:19,310 it changed the two of us definitely yeah 130 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:23,210 fourth painters were more interesting 131 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:25,490 yeah but lots of other seconds as well 132 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:28,070 since yeah since that yeah no I 133 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:29,630 interviewed you a little while ago about 134 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:35,630 this I know that you develop psychic 135 00:07:39,490 --> 00:07:37,130 abilities as well haven't you that's 136 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:39,500 right there when when you will act that 137 00:07:51,310 --> 00:07:49,180 I thought that I was aware of but stuff 138 00:07:56,020 --> 00:07:51,320 did happen when I was when I was a kid 139 00:07:58,660 --> 00:07:56,030 particularly in that house there but I 140 00:08:01,360 --> 00:07:58,670 think it's just as I think the reason I 141 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:01,370 see so many is just the sensitivity yeah 142 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:02,960 my peripheral vision because we have 143 00:08:26,110 --> 00:08:17,290 clairvoyance mostly have seen these 144 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:26,120 similar objects on the same night which 145 00:08:28,870 --> 00:08:27,290 is why I was asking you about the time 146 00:08:32,650 --> 00:08:28,880 because this put the important about the 147 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:32,660 time yeah cuz it was getting dark I I 148 00:08:39,010 --> 00:08:35,150 just cast around sadness because my 149 00:08:41,860 --> 00:08:39,020 friends when used to come for tea they'd 150 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:41,870 have tea and it's there an hour to an MD 151 00:08:46,330 --> 00:08:43,370 gone he's always around Sam o'clock ish 152 00:08:48,220 --> 00:08:46,340 yeah so we was taking him home so I 153 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:48,230 thought that must have been around Santa 154 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:54,140 Clau fish but I don't know my mother 155 00:08:57,610 --> 00:08:55,670 thinks it was just getting dark sore 156 00:09:02,080 --> 00:08:57,620 which would put it well that's all seven 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:02,090 yeah thanks we'll make this my girl 158 00:09:16,510 --> 00:09:09,410 thank you very much okay at the same 159 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:16,520 time it's fasting one friend of mine 160 00:09:21,179 --> 00:09:17,680 journey 161 00:09:23,249 --> 00:09:21,189 husband I think about what ten years all 162 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:23,259 the D about DPLA make time and it was a 163 00:09:28,019 --> 00:09:25,930 discus guy but outdoor the dish has come 164 00:09:29,850 --> 00:09:28,029 in another white ball fooling around to